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Script of the
conference call with Dr. Nathan Newman. This is in Q and A format!
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@ A with Dr. Nathan Newman
Kim: Welcome everyone we have Dr. Nathan Newman, a world renown cosmetic
surgeon with us, so dr. Newman once again welcome to the call.
Dr. Newman could you share with us how this amazing product, Luminesce,
has come about?
Dr. Newman: Basically what I focused on is fat and I have been dealing
with fat for many, many years and trying to figure out how to use it to
replenish our faces. With age we loose the fat and we look aged. We
found that fat contains the most amount of stem cells than any other
part of our body so the most concentrated amount of stem cells are in
the fat.
We looked what we can do to use these stem cells for cosmetic surgery,
for wound healing and when we were using them in the studies for wound
healing we found that the skin got better.
When we were doing reconstructive surgery for cancer patients We found
the skin was getting better and we went to the lab looked where our stem
cells were, we looked at what we were growing it in, we looked at what
was being produced and we figured that if we can take this and put it on
the skin we will improve it And when we did that, what we thought was
going to happen did happen and we got improvements in skin diseases, we
got improvement in (healing) skin wounds and people were using it on the
skin who did not have any skin problems, started noticing that skin was
getting better was feeling , was getting rejuvenated, that lines were
getting less noticeable and that’s how it came about.
Kim: Dr. Newman, let’s do this because of time constrains I have a list
of questions that were collected from the callers from around the world.
Let me go over the questions we have. Dr. Newman can you share with us
and describe, because lot of people are laymen, such as myself, can you
describe to us: What exactly is adult stem cell technology?
Dr. Newman: Adult stem cell is very different than embryonic stem cell.
Adult stem cell it means it comes from human being already born and
living. We’re taking the stem cells that are found in fat of humans and
not embryos, so that does not have any of the controversy or any of the
ethical or moral issues associated with it. Those stem cells are able to
do many, many things in the body: they can make bones, they can make
cartilage, they can make fat, they can do a lot of repair and
rejuvenation of the tissues.
When we take those adult stem cells, and we put them in the laboratory
and we grow them they communicate with one another and they talk to one
another through cytokines and interleukins and prostaglandins and growth
factors and that is how they talk to each other and tell each other what
to do, how far to grow, how much to grow; and that’s what we take and
that’s what we put in the Luminesce and that’s why it works because
we’re giving the body the communication, the language that it needs to
repair itself.
Kim: Dr. Newman because we’re all laymen here, when you say that the
stem cells come from an adult fat lot of people ask whose fat do they
come from? And also does the product actually contain stem cells in it
and if so what are the chances of DNA transfer from dormant viruses?
Dr. Newman: Very good question. The product itself does not have any
cells in it. There is no stem cells in the product. What has is what the
stem cells have produced. The stem cells come from my patients basically
who I did treatments on and we take the fat and take the stem cells and
we grow them in the laboratory. We check the patients for the viruses to
make sure that they are not infected and they are healthy and at the lab
they also check every cells batch that were taken to the lab they
periodically check for viruses, for bacteria for fungus to make sure
that there is nothing there, so when we’re getting the product there is
no cells in it so there is no DNA in it, there is no infections in it.
There is no live tissue.
Kim: Excellent, Excellent. Also what is the condition media consists of,
you know we’re talking about you grow the stem cells in the laboratory
so what is so called special sauce that is universally used as the
condition media for the stem cells?
Dr. Newman: In order for the stem cells to survive outside the body and
to grow we have to have a special medium call ed “condition media” This
medium is what we use to grow the cells but there are different ways and
different methods and we have a special method to ensure that we get the
products that we want for the skin so that it makes the skin get its
nutrients and the growth factors and interleukins and cytokines that it
needs to make it look refreshed and rejuvenated.
Kim: Wow, I see now. Because it is such an amazing product does the
product have expiration date or does it go bad?
A Dr. Newman: Expiration date is based on every country and every state,
whatever their regulation is.
Generally these things once we make formulated it lasts for many, many
years; it can last two to five years; but it just depends on the
manufacturing and the laws of the country are but if you keep it in nice
normal room temperature environment it’ll last you two to five years.
Kim: Two to five years, excellent, excellent now also lots of people
ask: you have such a wonderful product does our delivery system can
penetrate the skin epidermis, dermis, subcutaneous layer?
Dr. Newman: Very good question. The product has a small molecular level.
All the things that we’re talking about that stem cells produce they’re
very small so they can penetrate very easily into the skin. They can..
The molecular level is much, much smaller than even the collagen that
the stem cells produce so it can penetrate easily because of the size
and because of the formula that we have ensures that it gets penetrated
and it goes deep wherever we want it to go into the skin to do the
rejuvenation effect.
Kim: Wow so the delivery system can deliver the stem cells to repair and
improve the protection collagen down at the cellular level?
Dr. Newman: Yes.
Kim: Wow. Also does the stem cell technology interact with our natural
body processes that stimulate the production of collagen and elastin?
Dr. Newman: That’s how we believe it rejuvenates the tissues because it
tells the cells to repair themselves and renew themselves. So when you
are aging the sun damage and just the wear and tear on the skin and on
the cells decrease the collagen and decreases the elasticity, but when
you’re doing this, it is telling the cells to recreate those structures.
So the idea is that it will recreate it. Now I’ve never taken anybody’s
face to cut on it to do the study on it; if anybody is interested in
volunteering to do it so that we can send it to the lab I will be happy
to do it. But when we do those studies in the lab because we want to
show that it works on the molecular level. We don’t need to do it here
because we can see actually in the face itself on the grand level we can
see that it is changing. So we know that it is doing that at the
molecular level.
Kim: Yeah, I noticed the difference on my face. Now because it is such a
wonderful product, and what are the results?
Dr. Newman: We did clinical tests to show that it works and the results,
I believe, are going to be posted on the website so that people can read
in details, but there was the clinical study that was done originally,
and now we’re doing more clinical result tests because we see more
results than we’ve expected and we’re going to publish those as well. So
that are the things we’re trying to do to show that how well it works
and how fast it works because most people when they use it, they see
results pretty quickly, but we recommend for people to use it at least
one month before they can determine whether it works for them or not.
Kim: You recommend that people use it for one month for some people that
is such high tech product and new, some people ask if there is any
problem from continuous usage of this product?
Dr. Newman: Product is there to maintain your skin’s youthfulness so the
longer you use it the more benefits you’re going to get because it is
cumulative, so the more your cells are able to rejuvenate themselves and
renew themselves the younger you’re going to look and the longer the
results will last.
Kim: Wonderful, wonderful. So a lot of people ask what is the best way
to apply this serum?
Dr. Newman: The serum comes in pre-measured pumps so that every pump
they do gives you a specific measure of the product and one of those
pumps should be enough to do a face around the eyes and most areas that
we notice aging. If someone has a larger area that they want to treat
they can do a couple of pumps to their face to actually cover the whole
area. I’ve had people use it all over their body; some use it on their
legs, some use on their hands and the skin improvements, but the
majority changes you will start to see around the eyes then it is going
to be on the wrinkles around the forehead and on the face. If you use
more of it nothing bad is going to happen it does not have any
irritation that comes from it, but you’re going to run out of the
product sooner.
Kim: Heh, heh, heh That’s going to be a beautiful thing, heh, heh. Also
in terms of the possible…. ??? some people use popular brands like Obaji
some type of alpha hydroxy, whatever –oxy, can they at the same time use
our serum? Will it interact with other products?
Dr. Newman: They can use the other products that they want. The maim
thing that they have to do with this product is to put his product right
after they wash their face, because this product, like I said, the
molecular level of this product is so small that if you put anything
beforehand, you’ll block it from going into the skin. So you want to put
this on first and then you can put your other products on.
The other products are not going to do anything bad to this product, or
give you any allergic reaction or irritation, There is no acid per se in
this product like Obaji has salicylic and glycolic acid.
Kim: So ours will not interfere with their and will not irritate
anything.
Dr. Newman: No, no. I had people using it with my products, with their
own products
Kim: Wonderful, You mentioned after we wash our face can we use toner
first? But you recommend after thy wash their face thy use this product
first.
Dr. Newman: Depending what the toner is; is it like a wipe or is it just
a wash it is fine, they can d the toner and then can put this on, but
they should not put any creams or serums before they put on this one. So
they can do the wash, the toner and they can do that.
Kim: After washing the face I would say, I put the serum because the
molecular structure is so small that it can penetrate my skin better.
Correct?
Dr. Newman: Correct.
Kim: Wonderful, We’re going to move on to some more specific questions,
because many people have sent emails that I want to make sure that those
questions are answered. Some people that have hair removals, how soon
after hair removal can someone use Luminesce?
Dr. Newman: Right after.
Kim: Wow!
Dr. Newman: This, like I said, this was originally developed as wound
healing product.
Kim: A wound healing product?
Dr. Newman: Right. We took the stem cells and we did wound healing; we
saw that skin was getting better. So we can take things that we do to
our skin, let’s say they do laser hair removal, they do chemical peel,
they do micro derma abrasion, they do facial, They get a scrape
somewhere; when they put this on it it’s going to help heal faster.
Kim: Wow. So people have derma abrasion, some sort of peeling and it is
red and they put on Luminesce it somehow will actually help to diminish
the redness?
Dr. Newman: Yes, the redness will go away, the skin will heal faster.
People will get peel, the wax of their body or of their face and
sometime get a little burn, they put a little (Luminesce) on and they’ll
heal a lot faster and a lot better.
Kim: Wow. Because some people when they do like this bad peel, whatever,
you know if they put Luminesce on will it sting their face?
Dr. Newman: Depends how dry, how cracked their skin is, it may sting a
little bit for a few seconds, it’ll heal it a lot better because they
have taken off all those layer it’ll penetrate deeper now, it can work
faster so they can get faster results with it.
Kim: so it will not only diminish the redness it will actually help the
skin to recover. Is that correct?
Dr. Newman: Yes, yes.
Kim: Wow. That is powerful. Now lots of people wanted to know
approximately when they see the difference in texture, the wrinkles,
what not, approximately how long does the product take to achieve
approximately the most desirable or maximum results? How long does it
normally take?
Dr. Newman: There is not such thing as maximum results. The more you use
it the more benefit you’re going to get the longer you’re going to
maintain your results because we do not stop aging, so you’re going to
do maintenance on your skin just as you do maintenance on everything
else. But in order to see decent ( results) give it decent amount of
time so that you see that it works; I would do a minimum of four weeks.
So after four weeks you should see some improvement. Generally it takes
four months to six months for most products to do change in the
molecular structure of the cells to see the difference in collagen,
elastin, because it takes three to six months for them renew the
collagen and elastin.
Kim: I see. Now we have one of the users that are on the product, they
have been using the product for six weeks twice a day for six weeks,
they still have some small brown spots. They have seen the improvement
in the lifting, and also in the pore reduction and also the lines are
softening but they see some brown spots are still there, they ask at
what point they will diminish. Can you comment on that one?
Dr. Newman: Sure, the brown spots are different problem, they’re more
difficult to get rid off. It depends what kind of brown spots it is; Is
it from the sun or from the hormones or is it a combination, or if it is
actually the growth on the skin that looks a bit dark, so it hard to
treat in just four weeks or six weeks just as this person. Some times it
takes longer for these to get rid off and if it is dark we may need to
add a lightening agent or peeling agent to help to get that dark spot to
come off sooner.
Kim: Now, so what about age spots? Does this product help and if it does
approximately how long will we see an improvement?
Dr. Newman: Most of people who have used noticed some improvement but it
wasn’t the main point; so if they’re going to buy it just for the brown
spots and that’s how they ‘re going to use it that is not going to give
the major results that they want as fast as we can get combination of
this plus other agents and that’s something that we are working on to
develop because we know that’s a big thing for most people. But it does
lighten them and people have seen about 10 to 20 % those dark spots
lightening once they used it for 3 months.
Kim: Hmm, wonderful. But also since this product stimulates growth of
cells some people ask: Is there any danger of replicating cancerous
cells for those people that have cancerous cells?
Dr. Newman: Very good question. There is a big difference between growth
factors and growth hormones. What most people use for rejuvenation : the
injects or the pills or whatever they do (includes) growth hormones.
Those hormones may stimulate growth of any cell including cancer cells.
Growth factor and all the other products that are there cytokines,
interleukines are actually there to destroy bad cells, so probably
you’re going to get less cancer cells: they’re going to destroy bad
cells and replace them with healthier cells over time by doing this,
because of all the different factors that are in there.
Kim: Wow. So let me get this straight: I am a layman, not a doctor, so
let me make sure I understand this properly: this product not only helps
my skin to produce healthier cells, it actually helps me to get rid of
bad cells?
Dr. Newman: When we do the wound healing that’s what it is doing; it is
making things heal so if you’re putting it on normal skin, if you have a
damaged cell, the idea is that it will replace it and get it healed. I
am not suggesting that you use it as a cancer treatment, but if you’re
trying to maintain your healthy skin, this is the way to do it with the
most advanced technology that we have today.
Kim: Wow! That’s powerful. Now you also mentioned briefly about growth
factor. I have read some of our literature saying that we, in this
product Luminesce, have over 200 growth factors. You know a lot of
people are not too familiar with growth factors. Maybe you know in the
market place in some of the finer department stores. Usually, to your
knowledge, how many growth factors are normally in upscale skin products
line?
Dr. Newman: That’s why this product is so unique. There is no product
out there that has anything that that resembles this. There is no
product out there that has from your own body’s stem cells growth
factors and interleukines and cytokines and matrix proteins; all the
good things that are produced by the stem cells. No other product has it
When you go out there, I’ve seen on the internet they are getting stem
cells derived from apples or from some plants. That’s not really going
to do anything for the skin because there is no communicating with your
own cells; we don’t communicate using those factors; we have different
factors that we use. So there is nothing really out there to compare it
to: It is very unique product.
Kim: Wow! I was told, I heard somewhere I was traveling most some people
say most skin products in more upscale skin line have maybe
approximately eight to nine growth factors, if at all, in their
products. According to your knowledge is it true?
Dr. Newman: Like I said, the are using plant derived stuff, not using
human stem cells derived stuff. So they may have them in there but not
get the same results. You’re going to get better because of the plant
derived stuff has acids in it and they have antioxidants in it but they
are not communicating with your cells.
Kim: Can you briefly share with us what does 200 growth factors do? What
is growth factor and what do they do?
Dr. Newman: There are not only growth factors; there are all those
different things interleukines, cytokines. What they do is they
basically are the language of the cells so they talk to each other. They
say: All right, there is inflammation here; we need to get rid of this
inflammation. This place does not have enough blood supply so we need to
bring more blood vessels and build new bridges, over here it is a bit
weak, so we need to build a little bit more collagen here. So that’s
what it does: it goes in there and communicates with cells. It says: oh,
I see that your blood supply is low, let’s bring it back to where it
should be and that’s what those factors are doing. It is very
complicated, even the scientists have not really figured out how all
these cells communicate with each other, what each specific factor does
in the whole scheme of things. It is very, very difficult even for the
scientists to decipher all of that.
Kim: That certainly is amazing product for I am hearing right now and
certainly for my own usage for one month I am seeing dramatic
improvement on my own skin and many people around me. Also there is a
question that just came up on my screen (we’re doing live call around
the world) The question has already been answered but here it is again
in two parts: Part1: Whose stem cells we’re using for this product; who
is the donor? Part 2: Is there any risk of transmitting disease or
genetic coding through the use of this product or technology? Can you
tell one more time clearly see that we can address it once and for all?
Dr. Newman: Most of the cells come from my patients’ stem cells when I
was doing procedures where we were taking the fat out and use their stem
cells, so we know, before we do this. We test them and we make sure that
they are not ill and they don’t and they don’t have any viruses that
they can transfer. Then we took these cells to the laboratory.
There they got processed, got tested, they got screened for viruses,
hepatitis, HIV, micro bacteria and they are tested on a routine basis.
Besides all that, they go through rigorous cleaning and there is to get
the product from these a whole process that goes through to get the
product from these cells. So once we get these products, we make sure
that there is no cells, there is no live cells within the product; It is
all just cytokines, growth factors and all the good things that we want,
that cells communicate with. That’s what we take and put in the bottle;
we don’t put any of the stem cells, we don’t put any of the genetic
products, the DNA or any other things that could possibly go in there.
Everything in the bottle that we are using for the product they are not
live (cells), they are basically just the by-product of the cells. So
there are very strict guidelines that we’ve put in place to make sure
that there is no risk for infection to anyone from this product. This
product is much safer than most products that are out there, because
none of those are tested continuously and we are testing it. So if they
have a batch that is infected with bacteria or a batch that is
contaminated, putting it on your skin, you’re going to get a break out,
you’re going to get infection. But we’re really stringent in testing and
making sure that there is nothing in there that we could pass to
anybody.
Kim: Wonderful. What effect does this product have on those skin types
that are prone to develop keloids?
Dr. Newman: Ah, very good question, At first we thought we’re going to
use it for the keloids once they’ve developed to treat it. We’ve used
for some and some people responded a little bit and some people didn’t
respond depending how big and thick and how old the keloid is. A keloid
is basically, for those who don’t know, is just a scar that is
overgrown, that is thick and not flat. So what we’re noticed if we used
it early enough, once you just get the cut and start to use it right
after the skin starts to heal, not when it is open , but right after the
skin closes and starts to heal and you start to use Luminesce. That’s
when you get better healing results and you get less scarring that you
would have without Luminesce, by itself.
Kim: We actually have a few testimonials from people that have scars
that have actually seen an improvement. Now, we have also a lot of
testimonials that it actually has helped with acne and stretch marks as
well. Can you comment briefly about that?
Dr. Newman: Sure. Like I said, because of the fact that this product
contains this language that the cells use to communicate with one
another. It works to decrease the inflammation and when you get acne you
get inflammation or when you have rosacea. You put it on and it starts
to heal the tissue, so that’s why it works on those things. For stretch
marks again if you do it when it is fresh and just tearing. You go in
there (with this product) and it takes out the inflammation., it starts
to repair the cells so don’t get stretch marks to become really seen and
loose and wrinkled.
Overtime you can fill up some of the collagen, some of the elastic
tissue and to smooth some of that scarring that’s on there.
Kim: Wow! Now, speaking of those stretch marks; it is an issue with
pregnant women because you know, it is very easy to get stretch marks as
you are carrying big belly. Can pregnant women use Luminesce on their
belly?
Dr. Newman: I think that should be addressed with their doctors to see
how they feel, because when you’re pregnant it depends how conservative
you are. There is nothing in the product that would harm the baby so
they can use it if they want. I would have them ask their doctor to make
sure that it’s OK.
Kim: Wonderful. Last technical question: Have before and after punch
biopsies been done to demonstrate scientifically the efficacy of this
product formulation?
Dr. Newman: I briefly touched on that before. When we’ve done the
studies, we’ve done it clinically. We saw that we were seeing changes so
dramatically on the skin so we didn’t feel that we need to go and do
microscopic examination to see that it was making changes because you
can see it right away. The reason we didn’t do the punch biopsy studies
is because it leaves scar when you cut on the face. If somebody wants to
volunteer and come do a study, I’ll be happy to do it but there is a
little scar that comes from doing it. That is why we have not done it.
Kim: Got you, got you. I know that it is so helpful to a lot of people.
I am actually very simple layman and the way I see it working: you try
it, you use it and see the difference. It is amazing. So in closing, Dr.
Newman, it is safe to say that it is the world first adult stem cell
technology serum out there?
Dr. Newman: This is the one and only that I know of, that has been truly
made in the laboratory. I know, people talk about all sort of stem cells
from plants. But they are not this product. This product is (from) human
adult stem cells, not to be confused with anything else. There is
nothing like it. It is unique because it is from humans so it can
communicate with cells set in our bodies to do what needs to be done to
heal us and to make us healthier and more youthful.
Kim: That’s so powerful. And Dr. Newman, Thank you for your time and
thank you for coming out with this incredible product to Jeunesse
Global. Folks, you know, there you have it. For all those who have more
questions, feel free to email the company. We’ll be compiling a list of
Q and A’s and we will make that available on the website.
Keep in mind folks, we’re a month old and we already get pictures of
stretch marks diminishing; we’re collecting so many pictures of people
with eye bags. You can actually see eye bags diminish.
Not only we have cutting edge (rejuvenation technology) but also
financial opportunity.
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